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Mon Jul 6 14:47:58 EDT 2009
The majority have zero technical staff or skill.=20
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If someone would like a walkthrough - please let us know.
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The Web Empowered Church software is free - and includes all of the
following ministry tools:
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(listed in detail here: http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/ )=20
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Current Ministry Tools
Discussion Forum
<http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_discussion/>=20
The Discussion Forum extension allows you to create a simplified forum,
blog (web log), or comment system on your website. The Discussion Forum
is designed for one main topic on one page only.
eBible <http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_ebible/>=20
The WEC eBible extension automatically converts scripture references
anywhere in your website to the full scripture text.
Flash Player <http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_flashplayer/>
The WEC Flash Player extension plays either MP3-formatted audio files or
FLV-formatted video files inside a web browser.
Flash Presentation
<http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_flashpresentation/>=20
The WEC Flash Presentation extension displays an audio or video
presentation that includes multiple individual charts that are displayed
at the appropriate time in the presentation.
Map <http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_map/>=20
The WEC Map extension displays a Google map with markers that show a few
locations such as your church and youth center, or the map can display
all or a group of frontend users.
Prayer Connector
<http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_connector/>=20
The WEC Prayer Connector extension implements a connector community. A
connector community is designed to help people that have a need or
service find people who can address that need or use that service.
Servant Matcher <http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_servant/>=20
The WEC Servant Matcher is a great way to connect people to service
opportunities. Specifically,this extension was created for churches or
ministries to connect members and attenders to ministry service
opportunities.
Sermons Management System
<http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/sermons_management_system/>=20
The Sermon Management System, or SMS for short, provides a streamlined
process for making sermon resources available online, and allows your
audience to view the sermon information in many different ways.
Staff Directory
<http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/staff_directory/>=20
The Staff Directory is an extension that will enable organizations the
ability to display information about their staff members on their
website.
Devotional Journal <http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_devo/>=20
The WEC Devotional Journal extension implements a devotional with a
private personal journal for each user. - This tool however takes a lot
of work to use - visit www.mytj.org for a demonstration.=20
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A few of the churches using WEC are as follows:
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1. www.cor.org - ian referenced this one.=20
2. http://www.gego-bremen.de/=20
3. http://www.4fbc.org/
4. http://www.jaxgrace.org/
5. http://www.heartchurch.com/
6. http://www.irvingbible.org/
7. http://www.stonebriar.org=20
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We are constantly in development - and the software is free - Open
Source - which allows you to work on it yourself if ever needed - and
choose hosting anywhere.
Vine - we offer plans as cheap as $25/mo=20
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Elaxio and others - they are great tools - but the cost on many that
have the specific ministry tools - well they are expensive.
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Hope that helps=20
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________________________________________________________________________
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Glenn Kelley | Network Architect | Vine Networks | www.VineHosting.com=20
Ohio NOC | 317 South North Street | Washington CH OH 43160
Skype Messenger: vinehosting
Email: glenn at vinehosting.com
Phone: 740-206-1140 x 6900
Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
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On Aug 31, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Ian Beyer wrote:
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h is powerful, but it's not for the faint of heart
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For templates you have a vast library to pick from, but =
from a customizxation
and flexibility standpoint I went with JSN Epic:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a =
href=3D"http://joomlashine.com/">http://joomlashine.com/</a><o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I purchased unlimited domain usage for the template as =
well as
their slide show module. For… $175 if I recall you get unlimited =
domain usage for
both template and flash slideshow module, and access to the developer =
support
area where they are very responsive. A lot of questions are also =
answered on
the public forums. Also you get lifetime upgrades. One desn’t have =
to buy
unlimited domain licensing. You can spend less if just for one domain. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Anyway … I have found Joomla + JSN Epic a =
wonderful, versatile
solution. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] =
<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Phillips, Paul<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> IT Discussion Forum<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [itdiscuss] website cms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>I’ll second this endorsement of Joomla! Out of =
the box, the
Joomla package does a great job at providing a good website with several =
layers
of additional features. But the real power comes from the =
extensions you
can add as well as the customization you can do on the =
site.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>The Joomla developers have put a real emphasis on =
developing a
framework for creating a full-featured robust site. I have yet to =
find
anything that Joomla is incapable of doing using either a pre-built =
extension
(many are free) or a small bit of custom code.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><img border=3D0 width=3D131 height=3D63 =
id=3D"Picture_x0020_1"
src=3D"cid:image001.jpg at 01CA2BB9.07132600" =
alt=3DSig><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Paul Phillips<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>IT Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><img border=3D0 width=3D225 height=3D27 =
id=3D"Picture_x0020_2"
src=3D"cid:image002.jpg at 01CA2BB9.07132600" =
alt=3DWtbLogo><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>(678) 578-5535<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><a =
href=3D"mailto:pphillips at walkthru.org">pphillips at walkthru.org</a><o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] =
<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Dayron Daugherty<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> IT Discussion Forum<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [itdiscuss] website cms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I like Joomla <a =
href=3D"http://www.joomla.org/">http://www.joomla.org/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It’s free, easy to use (of course that is my =
opinion), a massive
user community with many useful addons (a lot of them free as well), a =
large
number of templates available to choose from frommany different vendors =
(and
many free ones) and most webhosts I’ve seen will run it. =
Some webhosts
even offer it as a service without you having to manually install it. =
You just
go to your webhost’s control panel and choose it from list. Of =
course,
depending on the scope of your site, you may want something a little =
beefier
than a standard webhosting account.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] =
<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Glenn Kelley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> IT Discussion Forum<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [itdiscuss] website cms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Ian - <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>with the many things that Web Empowered Church has =
done - I
think folks should take a look @ it. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://www.WebEmpoweredChurch.com">www.WebEmpoweredChurch.com</a>=
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>VineHosting - which I am part of is now hosting =
over 400
churches and ministries on this platform - <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>From as small as 20 folks to as large as 12,000 in
attendance. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>The majority have zero technical staff or =
skill. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>If someone would like a walkthrough - please let us =
know.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>The Web Empowered Church software is free - and =
includes all
of the following ministry tools:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>(listed in detail here: <a
href=3D"http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/">http://webempoweredchu=
rch.com/extensions/</a>
) <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<h2>Current Ministry Tools<o:p></o:p></h2>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><a
href=3D"http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_discussion/"
title=3D"Discussion Forum">Discussion Forum</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>The Discussion Forum =
extension
allows you to create a simplified forum, blog (web log), or comment =
system on
your website. The Discussion Forum is designed for one main topic on one =
page
only.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><a
href=3D"http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_ebible/" =
title=3DeBible>eBible</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>The WEC eBible extension
automatically converts scripture references anywhere in your website to =
the
full scripture text.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><a
href=3D"http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_flashplayer/"
title=3D"Flash Player">Flash Player</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>The WEC Flash Player =
extension
plays either MP3-formatted audio files or FLV-formatted video files =
inside a
web browser.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><a
href=3D"http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_flashpresentation/"
title=3D"Flash Presentation">Flash Presentation</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>The WEC Flash =
Presentation
extension displays an audio or video presentation that includes multiple
individual charts that are displayed at the appropriate time in the
presentation.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_map/"
title=3DMap>Map</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>The WEC Map extension =
displays a
Google map with markers that show a few locations such as your church =
and youth
center, or the map can display all or a group of frontend =
users.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><a
href=3D"http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_connector/"
title=3D"Prayer Connector">Prayer Connector</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>The WEC Prayer Connector =
extension
implements a connector community. A connector community is designed to =
help
people that have a need or service find people who can address that need =
or use
that service.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><a
href=3D"http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_servant/"
title=3D"Servant Matcher">Servant Matcher</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>The WEC Servant Matcher =
is a great
way to connect people to service opportunities. Specifically,this =
extension was
created for churches or ministries to connect members and attenders to =
ministry
service opportunities.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><a
href=3D"http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/sermons_management_syste=
m/"
title=3D"Sermons Management System">Sermons Management =
System</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>The Sermon Management =
System, or
SMS for short, provides a streamlined process for making sermon =
resources
available online, and allows your audience to view the sermon =
information in
many different ways.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><a
href=3D"http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/staff_directory/"
title=3D"Staff Directory">Staff Directory</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>The Staff Directory is =
an extension
that will enable organizations the ability to display information about =
their
staff members on their website.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://webempoweredchurch.com/extensions/wec_devo/"
title=3D"Devotional Journal">Devotional Journal</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>The WEC Devotional =
Journal
extension implements a devotional with a private personal journal for =
each
user. - This tool however takes a lot of work to use - visit <a
href=3D"http://www.mytj.org">www.mytj.org</a> for a =
demonstration. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>A few of the churches using WEC are as =
follows:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<ol start=3D1 type=3D1>
<li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><a =
href=3D"http://www.cor.org">www.cor.org</a> -
ian referenced this one. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><a =
href=3D"http://www.gego-bremen.de/">http://www.gego-bremen.de/</a> <=
o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><a =
href=3D"http://www.4fbc.org/">http://www.4fbc.org/</a><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><a =
href=3D"http://www.jaxgrace.org/">http://www.jaxgrace.org/</a><o:p></o:p>=
</li>
<li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><a =
href=3D"http://www.heartchurch.com/">http://www.heartchurch.com/</a><o:p>=
</o:p></li>
<li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><a =
href=3D"http://www.irvingbible.org/">http://www.irvingbible.org/</a><o:p>=
</o:p></li>
<li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><a =
href=3D"http://www.stonebriar.org">http://www.stonebriar.org</a> <o:=
p></o:p></li>
</ol>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>We are constantly in development - and the software =
is free
- Open Source - which allows you to work on it yourself if ever needed - =
and
choose hosting anywhere.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Vine - we offer plans as cheap as =
$25/mo <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Elaxio and others - they are great tools - but the =
cost on
many that have the specific ministry tools - well they are =
expensive.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Hope that helps <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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class=3Dapple-style-span><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>_____________________________________________________________=
________________________</span></b></span><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><b><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D=
'>Glenn
Kelley | Network Architect | Vine Networks | <a
href=3D"http://www.VineHosting.com">www.VineHosting.com</a> </span><=
/b><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D=
'>Ohio
NOC | 317 South North Street | Washington CH OH 43160</span><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D=
'> <b>Skype
Messenger</b>: vinehosting</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#003366=
'>Email:
<a =
href=3D"mailto:glenn at vinehosting.com">glenn at vinehosting.com</a></span><sp=
an
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D=
'>Phone:
740-206-1140 x 6900</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><span=
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:green'>=
please
don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.</span><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Aug 31, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Ian Beyer =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>h is powerful, but =
it’s not
for the faint of heart</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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